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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hes 17th in the league in targets yet 10th in the league in receptions. 6th in the league in TDs 13th in the league in yards(everyone ahead of him has more targets.) The only thing I cant bring up stat wise is drops.

So for everyone complaining if he would just get more looks he would be a top 5 TE in this league easy...who cares where he was drafted the guy is a stud and I dont know how many of these TE's can block like he can.

We don't use him enough, if we did there would be none of this negative crap flying around about him.

ps all stats are compared to TE's not all recievers.


Maybe. But if he continues to drop simple balls in the endzone then the neagtive comments will always be there. Like ... Shaq was a great center but still criticized for not being to hit free throws. It's a receiver's job to catch. When he fails to make simple catches he'll justly earn some criticism.

I'm happy he had a good game yesterday. I'm certainly rooting for him to keep it up.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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P-Willy52 wrote:
Hes 17th in the league in targets yet 10th in the league in receptions. 6th in the league in TDs 13th in the league in yards(everyone ahead of him has more targets.) The only thing I cant bring up stat wise is drops.

So for everyone complaining if he would just get more looks he would be a top 5 TE in this league easy...who cares where he was drafted the guy is a stud and I dont know how many of these TE's can block like he can.

We don't use him enough, if we did there would be none of this negative crap flying around about him.

ps all stats are compared to TE's not all recievers.


Maybe. But if he continues to drop simple balls in the endzone then the neagtive comments will always be there. Like ... Shaq was a great center but still criticized for not being to hit free throws. It's a receiver's job to catch. When he fails to make simple catches he'll justly earn some criticism.

I'm happy he had a good game yesterday. I'm certainly rooting for him to keep it up.


Shaq was the best C to ever play the game so I don't really see the comparison...it was not his job to hit FT's, that's the only thing people could nit pick about his game....so if your comparing VD to Shaq, I'll take it.

Also I came up with last year VD had 4 drops in however many catches he had which ended up equating to 4%...not to shabby.


Ill continue to search this years.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

P-Willy52 wrote:
big9erfan wrote:
P-Willy52 wrote:
Hes 17th in the league in targets yet 10th in the league in receptions. 6th in the league in TDs 13th in the league in yards(everyone ahead of him has more targets.) The only thing I cant bring up stat wise is drops.

So for everyone complaining if he would just get more looks he would be a top 5 TE in this league easy...who cares where he was drafted the guy is a stud and I dont know how many of these TE's can block like he can.

We don't use him enough, if we did there would be none of this negative crap flying around about him.

ps all stats are compared to TE's not all recievers.


Maybe. But if he continues to drop simple balls in the endzone then the neagtive comments will always be there. Like ... Shaq was a great center but still criticized for not being to hit free throws. It's a receiver's job to catch. When he fails to make simple catches he'll justly earn some criticism.

I'm happy he had a good game yesterday. I'm certainly rooting for him to keep it up.


Shaq was the best C to ever play the game so I don't really see the comparison...it was not his job to hit FT's, that's the only thing people could nit pick about his game....so if your comparing VD to Shaq, I'll take it.

Also I came up with last year VD had 4 drops in however many catches he had which ended up equating to 4%...not to shabby.


Ill continue to search this years.


That's debatable. Myself, I would take Kareem Abdul-Jabbar any day of the week and twice whenever I could. Cool
Back on topic: Vernon was ballin' yesterday and I loved it!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chrissooner49er wrote:
P-Willy52 wrote:
big9erfan wrote:
P-Willy52 wrote:
Hes 17th in the league in targets yet 10th in the league in receptions. 6th in the league in TDs 13th in the league in yards(everyone ahead of him has more targets.) The only thing I cant bring up stat wise is drops.

So for everyone complaining if he would just get more looks he would be a top 5 TE in this league easy...who cares where he was drafted the guy is a stud and I dont know how many of these TE's can block like he can.

We don't use him enough, if we did there would be none of this negative crap flying around about him.

ps all stats are compared to TE's not all recievers.


Maybe. But if he continues to drop simple balls in the endzone then the neagtive comments will always be there. Like ... Shaq was a great center but still criticized for not being to hit free throws. It's a receiver's job to catch. When he fails to make simple catches he'll justly earn some criticism.

I'm happy he had a good game yesterday. I'm certainly rooting for him to keep it up.


Shaq was the best C to ever play the game so I don't really see the comparison...it was not his job to hit FT's, that's the only thing people could nit pick about his game....so if your comparing VD to Shaq, I'll take it.

Also I came up with last year VD had 4 drops in however many catches he had which ended up equating to 4%...not to shabby.


Ill continue to search this years.


That's debatable. Myself, I would take Kareem Abdul-Jabbar any day of the week and twice whenever I could. Cool
Back on topic: Vernon was ballin' yesterday and I loved it!


Fair enough...let me say most Dominant.

And yes VD was rocking we need to keep feeding him the ball...you see how pissed he was when they didn't give him that TD lol
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

P-Willy52 wrote:
Chrissooner49er wrote:
P-Willy52 wrote:
big9erfan wrote:
P-Willy52 wrote:
Hes 17th in the league in targets yet 10th in the league in receptions. 6th in the league in TDs 13th in the league in yards(everyone ahead of him has more targets.) The only thing I cant bring up stat wise is drops.

So for everyone complaining if he would just get more looks he would be a top 5 TE in this league easy...who cares where he was drafted the guy is a stud and I dont know how many of these TE's can block like he can.

We don't use him enough, if we did there would be none of this negative crap flying around about him.

ps all stats are compared to TE's not all recievers.


Maybe. But if he continues to drop simple balls in the endzone then the neagtive comments will always be there. Like ... Shaq was a great center but still criticized for not being to hit free throws. It's a receiver's job to catch. When he fails to make simple catches he'll justly earn some criticism.

I'm happy he had a good game yesterday. I'm certainly rooting for him to keep it up.


Shaq was the best C to ever play the game so I don't really see the comparison...it was not his job to hit FT's, that's the only thing people could nit pick about his game....so if your comparing VD to Shaq, I'll take it.

Also I came up with last year VD had 4 drops in however many catches he had which ended up equating to 4%...not to shabby.


Ill continue to search this years.


That's debatable. Myself, I would take Kareem Abdul-Jabbar any day of the week and twice whenever I could. Cool
Back on topic: Vernon was ballin' yesterday and I loved it!


Fair enough...let me say most Dominant.

And yes VD was rocking we need to keep feeding him the ball...you see how pissed he was when they didn't give him that TD lol



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rudyZ wrote:
P-Willy52 wrote:
Chrissooner49er wrote:
P-Willy52 wrote:
big9erfan wrote:
P-Willy52 wrote:
Hes 17th in the league in targets yet 10th in the league in receptions. 6th in the league in TDs 13th in the league in yards(everyone ahead of him has more targets.) The only thing I cant bring up stat wise is drops.

So for everyone complaining if he would just get more looks he would be a top 5 TE in this league easy...who cares where he was drafted the guy is a stud and I dont know how many of these TE's can block like he can.

We don't use him enough, if we did there would be none of this negative crap flying around about him.

ps all stats are compared to TE's not all recievers.


Maybe. But if he continues to drop simple balls in the endzone then the neagtive comments will always be there. Like ... Shaq was a great center but still criticized for not being to hit free throws. It's a receiver's job to catch. When he fails to make simple catches he'll justly earn some criticism.

I'm happy he had a good game yesterday. I'm certainly rooting for him to keep it up.


Shaq was the best C to ever play the game so I don't really see the comparison...it was not his job to hit FT's, that's the only thing people could nit pick about his game....so if your comparing VD to Shaq, I'll take it.

Also I came up with last year VD had 4 drops in however many catches he had which ended up equating to 4%...not to shabby.


Ill continue to search this years.


That's debatable. Myself, I would take Kareem Abdul-Jabbar any day of the week and twice whenever I could. Cool
Back on topic: Vernon was ballin' yesterday and I loved it!


Fair enough...let me say most Dominant.

And yes VD was rocking we need to keep feeding him the ball...you see how pissed he was when they didn't give him that TD lol



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wilt did it against small white boys...put wilt in todays game and hes nowhere near the player he was. Shaq was the most dominant player the NBA has ever seen. But thats enough hoops talk Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please note: I am a VD fan !!!

... but this was chuckle-worthy.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

... and then, this one is too good to overlook.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yet another bobble on a perfectly throw pass that might have cost us an eventual TD. Time after time after time. This guy just can't catch!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yet another bobble on a perfectly throw pass that might have cost us an eventual TD. Time after time after time. This guy just can't catch!



Dude... it's always Alex's fault, you should know better. After the game, there will still be people saying Alex sucks and minimize the impact of a drop like that. But really, VD has single-handedly (and bodily) changed the course of many games, on offense. If that one is a touchdown, it changes the way we play the rest of the game. Damn, this is frustrating.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still really like Vernon, but he has definitely shown us(on Q as he dropped that pass) that he isn't capable of being the center piece of an offense.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I still really like Vernon, but he has definitely shown us(on Q as he dropped that pass) that he isn't capable of being the center piece of an offense.


Did you write this ocmment before or after he dopped the second easy that kept us pinned deep in our own territory? Those two plays are the equivalnet of turnovers
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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John232 wrote:
I still really like Vernon, but he has definitely shown us(on Q as he dropped that pass) that he isn't capable of being the center piece of an offense.


Did you write this ocmment before or after he dopped the second easy that kept us pinned deep in our own territory? Those two plays are the equivalnet of turnovers



That's what the on q was about.


I think it would be dumb to get rid of him, I think he can bounce back because this has undoubtedly been his worst season ever. Seems mental...

But yeah, we need to get more receiving options because they aren't cutting it right now.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rudyZ wrote:
big9erfan wrote:
Yet another bobble on a perfectly throw pass that might have cost us an eventual TD. Time after time after time. This guy just can't catch!



Dude... it's always Alex's fault, you should know better. After the game, there will still be people saying Alex sucks and minimize the impact of a drop like that. But really, VD has single-handedly (and bodily) changed the course of many games, on offense. If that one is a touchdown, it changes the way we play the rest of the game. Damn, this is frustrating.


Alex throws a perfect catchable ball every single time. Never misses receivers. I keep forgetting that. My bad man. My bad!
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cHaInBrEaKeRiii wrote:
rudyZ wrote:
big9erfan wrote:
Yet another bobble on a perfectly throw pass that might have cost us an eventual TD. Time after time after time. This guy just can't catch!



Dude... it's always Alex's fault, you should know better. After the game, there will still be people saying Alex sucks and minimize the impact of a drop like that. But really, VD has single-handedly (and bodily) changed the course of many games, on offense. If that one is a touchdown, it changes the way we play the rest of the game. Damn, this is frustrating.


Alex throws a perfect catchable ball every single time. Never misses receivers. I keep forgetting that. My bad man. My bad!


You know dude, the content of your post never seems to extend past an Alex Bash. It gets old fast.

I'm not a huge Alex fan, but the guy has been far from the worst player on offense, does he need to improve? Absolutely, is he the reason for us being completely inept on offense? No.

Statistics have shown that our receivers hands have been beyond terrible this year and our pass-protection has been sub-par at times.

Trying being objective for once, it's nice.
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