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Adrenaline_Flux
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With the 170th pick in the 2011 NFL draft, the Jacksonville Jaguars select...
Jabara Williams, LB, Stephen F. Austin
We wanted to hit linebacker earlier, but things didn't really fall right. Williams is undersized, but I feel he does have some potential. He was a 4 year starter, is really athletic, and is a hard worker and someone who is very coachable. He should compete well at WLB. In (the imaginary) free agency, it is fairly obvious that we will still be looking to add a couple of linebackers.
Welcome to Jacksonville!
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Adrenaline_Flux
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Trade Information
| Quote: | Cleveland gets:
DE Derrick Harvey
FS Michael Hamlin
#182 overall
Jacksonville gets:
#168 overall
#170 overall |
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Jacksonville Jaguars 2011 FFMD Draft
Round 1 (Pick 16): Ryan Kerrigan, DE, Purdue
Round 2 (Pick 49): Torrey Smith, WR, Maryland
Round 3 (Pick 80): Tyler Sash, Safety, Iowa
Round 4 (Pick 114): Ricky Stanzi, QB, Iowa
Round 4 (Pick 121): Buster Skrine, CB, University of Tennessee-Chattanooga
Round 5 (Pick 147): Austin Pettis, WR, Boise State
Round 6 (Pick 168): Josh Thomas, CB, Buffalo
Round 6 (Pick 170): Jabara Williams, LB, Stephen F. Austin
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Jacksonville Jaguars Roster
QB: David Garrard, Luke McCown, Ricky Stanzi
RB: Maurice Jones-Drew, Rashad Jennings, Deji Karim
FB: Greg Jones, Montell Owens, Brock Bolen
WR: Mike Thomas, Torrey Smith/Jason Hill (Torrey Smith will battle Jason Hill for a starting role. Whether he would be the "1" or "2" right away is yet to be seen), Jarett Dillard/Kassim Osgood/Austin Pettis, Tiquan Underwood/John Matthews/Nate Hughes
TE: Marcedes Lewis, Zach Miller, Zach Potter
LT: Eugene Monroe, Guy Whimper/Kevin Haslam/Daniel Baldridge
LG: Vince Manuwai, Justin Smiley, Kevin Haslam
C: Brad Meester, John Estes/Bradley Veirling Note: Uche Nwaneri can slide to C if needed
RG: Uche Nwaneri, Justin Smiley, Kevin Haslam
RT: Eben Britton, Guy Whimper/Kevin Haslam/Daniel Baldridge
RE: Aaron Kampman, Larry Hart, Aaron Morgan
UT: Tyson Alualu, D'Anthony Smith, Leger Douzable, C.J. Mosely/Nate Collins
NT: Terrance Knighton, D'Anthony Smith, Leger Douzable, C.J. Mosely/Nate Collins
LE: Jeremy Mincey, Ryan Kerrigan (could possibly challenge Mincey for the starting job his rookie year), Austen Lane
SLB: Daryl Smith, Jacob Cutrera/Kyle Bosworth/Slade Norris/Jabara Williams
MLB: Russell Allen, Alvin Bowen/Jabara Williams
WLB: Jacob Cutrera/Kyle Bosworth/Slade Norris/Jabara Williams
CB: Rashean Mathis, Derek Cox, David Jones/William Middleton/Buster Skrine, Josh Thomas (could be higher on depth chart depending on pre-season stuff, obviously), Terrence Wheatley, Scotty McGee (PR)
FS: Don Carey/Tyler Sash, Tyron Brackenridge, Terrell Whitehead
SS: Courtney Greene/Tyler Sash, Tyron Brackenridge
LS: Joe Cain
K: Josh Scobee
P: None (Once the lockout ends, we will probably get Adam Podlesh back)
Note: "/" denotes a sure position battle
Good job, guys.
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Looks like a great draft to me 
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| SaveourSonics wrote: | #168 (from CLE) The Jacksonville Jaguars select: Buffalo CB Josh Thomas
SoS's Draft Grade: B-
SoS's Analysis: Thomas is a player with a lot of potential but he was just dreadfully inconsistent at Buffalo. I honestly don't see him transitioning well to the NFL and he'll bring a good nickel CB at best.
#170 (from CLE) The Jacksonville Jaguars select: Stephen F. Austin LB Jabara Williams
SoS's Draft Grade: C+
SoS's Analysis: I have him as a late 6th and I have several LBs still available better than him. He's very instinctual but lacks ideal size to be effective. Not very strong and not overly fast will hurt his tranisition. |
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| Adrenaline_Flux wrote: | | SaveourSonics wrote: | #168 (from CLE) The Jacksonville Jaguars select: Buffalo CB Josh Thomas
SoS's Draft Grade: B-
SoS's Analysis: Thomas is a player with a lot of potential but he was just dreadfully inconsistent at Buffalo. I honestly don't see him transitioning well to the NFL and he'll bring a good nickel CB at best.
#170 (from CLE) The Jacksonville Jaguars select: Stephen F. Austin LB Jabara Williams
SoS's Draft Grade: C+
SoS's Analysis: I have him as a late 6th and I have several LBs still available better than him. He's very instinctual but lacks ideal size to be effective. Not very strong and not overly fast will hurt his tranisition. |
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| Adrenaline_Flux wrote: | | SaveourSonics wrote: | #168 (from CLE) The Jacksonville Jaguars select: Buffalo CB Josh Thomas
SoS's Draft Grade: B-
SoS's Analysis: Thomas is a player with a lot of potential but he was just dreadfully inconsistent at Buffalo. I honestly don't see him transitioning well to the NFL and he'll bring a good nickel CB at best.
#170 (from CLE) The Jacksonville Jaguars select: Stephen F. Austin LB Jabara Williams
SoS's Draft Grade: C+
SoS's Analysis: I have him as a late 6th and I have several LBs still available better than him. He's very instinctual but lacks ideal size to be effective. Not very strong and not overly fast will hurt his tranisition. |
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Obviously I do not agree with Thomas' evaluation. Even a very good nickel corner is something this team needs, and I can easily see him out performing Mathis (if this were to happen). He needs training, obviously, but I feel as a gunner and special teams ace (I see the same with Jabara) he also adds extra value.
I want to say very nice job done this year, and I give you props for sticking to your guns and keeping the Gene Smith mentality strong throughout both drafts.
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| Its A Sabotage wrote: | | Adrenaline_Flux wrote: | | SaveourSonics wrote: | #168 (from CLE) The Jacksonville Jaguars select: Buffalo CB Josh Thomas
SoS's Draft Grade: B-
SoS's Analysis: Thomas is a player with a lot of potential but he was just dreadfully inconsistent at Buffalo. I honestly don't see him transitioning well to the NFL and he'll bring a good nickel CB at best.
#170 (from CLE) The Jacksonville Jaguars select: Stephen F. Austin LB Jabara Williams
SoS's Draft Grade: C+
SoS's Analysis: I have him as a late 6th and I have several LBs still available better than him. He's very instinctual but lacks ideal size to be effective. Not very strong and not overly fast will hurt his tranisition. |
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Obviously I do not agree with Thomas' evaluation. Even a very good nickel corner is something this team needs, and I can easily see him out performing Mathis (if this were to happen). He needs training, obviously, but I feel as a gunner and special teams ace (I see the same with Jabara) he also adds extra value.
I want to say very nice job done this year, and I give you props for sticking to your guns and keeping the Gene Smith mentality strong throughout both drafts.
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I pray to god they didn't think we drafted someone in the 6th round to start over a Pro-Bowl player. Unless that's what we told them. Outside of the first 2-3 rounds, you aren't drafting for starters. You're drafting for project players that have skills to potentially start in case of injuries or situational players (and this is years down the road...not immediatly).
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JaguarCrazy2832
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| DjBuddaH wrote: | | Its A Sabotage wrote: | | Adrenaline_Flux wrote: | | SaveourSonics wrote: | #168 (from CLE) The Jacksonville Jaguars select: Buffalo CB Josh Thomas
SoS's Draft Grade: B-
SoS's Analysis: Thomas is a player with a lot of potential but he was just dreadfully inconsistent at Buffalo. I honestly don't see him transitioning well to the NFL and he'll bring a good nickel CB at best.
#170 (from CLE) The Jacksonville Jaguars select: Stephen F. Austin LB Jabara Williams
SoS's Draft Grade: C+
SoS's Analysis: I have him as a late 6th and I have several LBs still available better than him. He's very instinctual but lacks ideal size to be effective. Not very strong and not overly fast will hurt his tranisition. |
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Obviously I do not agree with Thomas' evaluation. Even a very good nickel corner is something this team needs, and I can easily see him out performing Mathis (if this were to happen). He needs training, obviously, but I feel as a gunner and special teams ace (I see the same with Jabara) he also adds extra value.
I want to say very nice job done this year, and I give you props for sticking to your guns and keeping the Gene Smith mentality strong throughout both drafts.
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I pray to god they didn't think we drafted someone in the 6th round to start over a Pro-Bowl player. Unless that's what we told them. Outside of the first 2-3 rounds, you aren't drafting for starters. You're drafting for project players that have skills to potentially start in case of injuries or situational players (and this is years down the road...not immediatly). |
I think for the most part you are right. However, we may be in a position where the guys we take in Round 4 or 5 could see some serious PT
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I'd describe pretty much all of our picks after round 3 as "project players". Austin Pettis is probably the smallest "project" there.
Our picks in the first 3 rounds should all compete for a starting spot from day one.
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| Adrenaline_Flux wrote: | I'd describe pretty much all of our picks after round 3 as "project players". Austin Pettis is probably the smallest "project" there.
Our picks in the first 3 rounds should all compete for a starting spot from day one. |
Absolutely. Kerrigan should start immediately as should Smith. Sash doesnt have much to beat out either
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| JaguarCrazy2832 wrote: | | Adrenaline_Flux wrote: | I'd describe pretty much all of our picks after round 3 as "project players". Austin Pettis is probably the smallest "project" there.
Our picks in the first 3 rounds should all compete for a starting spot from day one. |
Absolutely. Kerrigan should start immediately as should Smith. Sash doesnt have much to beat out either |
If Smith isn't ready though, he will probably be able to play the slot for us at least.
Mike Thomas
Jason Hill
Torrey Smith
Jarett Dillard
Austin Pettis
Kassim Osgood
That is probably what our receivers would look like. Taking Smith and Pettis would probably be the end of Tiquan Underwood in Jacksonville.
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| Adrenaline_Flux wrote: | | JaguarCrazy2832 wrote: | | Adrenaline_Flux wrote: | I'd describe pretty much all of our picks after round 3 as "project players". Austin Pettis is probably the smallest "project" there.
Our picks in the first 3 rounds should all compete for a starting spot from day one. |
Absolutely. Kerrigan should start immediately as should Smith. Sash doesnt have much to beat out either |
If Smith isn't ready though, he will probably be able to play the slot for us at least.
Mike Thomas
Jason Hill
Torrey Smith
Jarett Dillard
Austin Pettis
Kassim Osgood
That is probably what our receivers would look like. Taking Smith and Pettis would probably be the end of Tiquan Underwood in Jacksonville. |
Even if we draft 1 WR, Underwood might be shown the door. His hands are awful
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| SaveourSonics wrote: | THE JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS
Trades
Cleveland gets:
DE Derrick Harvey
FS Michael Hamlin
#182 overall
Jacksonville gets:
#168 overall
#170 overall
Draft Picks
#16 The Jacksonville Jaguars select: Purdue DE Ryan Kerrigan
SoS's Draft Grade: B
#49 The Jacksonville Jaguars select: Maryland WR Torrey Smith
SoS's Draft Grade: B+
#80 The Jacksonville Jaguars select: Iowa S Tyler Sash
SoS's Draft Grade: B
#114 The Jacksonville Jaguars select: Iowa QB Ricky Stanzi
SoS's Draft Grade: B-
#121 (from NO) The Jacksonville Jaguars select: Tennessee Chattanooga CB Buster Skrine
SoS's Draft Grade: B
#147 The Jacksonville Jaguars select: Boise State WR Austin Pettis
SoS's Draft Grade: A-
#168 (from CLE) The Jacksonville Jaguars select: Buffalo CB Josh Thomas
SoS's Draft Grade: B
#170 (from CLE) The Jacksonville Jaguars select: Stephen F. Austin LB Jabara Williams
SoS's Draft Grade: C+
*Average Draft Grade* B
Summary: Just a solid all around draft for the Jags. Their last pick was their worst grade and it was only a C+. Landed solid talent throughout the draft and stuck with the good character trend. Landed two solid receivers and two solid corners which were two big needs so I liked the focus they had. Trade was pretty much just to dump young players that didn't fit the team anymore.
*Overall Offseason Grade* B/B- - This one is close to a B- but I don't really like what the Jags did in trades and they didn't get a real steal anywhere aside from maybe Pettis. Really liked the direction they went in the draft, however. |
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Plain ole Hater gun Hate, he even admited to not liking the Jaguars....
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| Its A Sabotage wrote: | | Plain ole Hater gun Hate, he even admited to not liking the Jaguars.... |
I can understand if you hate the jags because you are a Colts, Texans, Titans, dolphins, steelers fan but who else?
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