Study on pass rushing 3-4 OLBs: 3-Cone Drill; Vert and Broad

[JaguarCrazy2832]

That is incredible. Excellent study there. If Jacksonville ran a 3-4 D I'd look back on this alot when evaluating guys
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[khodder]

[BlaZeN37]

Nice post khodder... I do agree that having it cut or dry between explosion and agility leaves a little room for improvement, which is why I'm going to try and create a 3rd section that incorperate both.

With that being said you have players who excel with either or, but not both and are still extremely successful (see: Joey Porter, Brian Orakpo, Shaun Phillips).

This study pertains to singling out what stats correlate with becoming a good-great pass rusher, not an all around OLB or cover OLB since the pass rushing skill is much more difficult to find.

[Waldo]

Therein lies the problem.

When you expand the dataset to encompass whole drafts (face it, good measuables are not a 1st-2nd round phenomenon), some of these trends lose their strong correlation.

The one trend that is true when it comes to measurbles, for each position it is not that hard to define "good" and "bad" especially when you've got a spreadsheet with LOTS of data, several drafts worth (some drafts are unusualy good or bad at particular #'s, the '09 NT's were unusually good at running and a poor representation in general of the position for example). Those players that across the board "good" ratings or "average" ratings tend to become good football players. Even lacking in a single drill increases the bust rate drastically.

For example, all of the OLB's with bad shuttle times. Especially if they ran fast (one would expect a slower shuttle for someone who runs slower). These guys almost always lack the quick twitch to their game.

But you always have to keep in mind, for all players their #'s are solely a function of their size. A 280 lb player that jumps 35" is significantly more explosive than a 230 lb player that jumps 36".

With pass rushers, and really all positions, the key with numbers though is what set of numbers will BEAT the man on the other side of the line. What #'s does it take to get by a pro left tackle?
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[BlaZeN37]

[khodder]

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[mounimonster]

What were Brooks Reeds numbers? What section would he fall under?

How about Robert Quinn?

[BlaZeN37]

[khodder]

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[jason96r]

Good job and nice study. Though I'm a Lions fan this interests me because the Lions use their DE's in the 9 technique which is somewhat like where a rush OLB would be but with their hand down.

Personally, I think the 10 yard split is pretty important along with the other numbers listed. The 10 yard for passrushers and lineman can help to display explosion.

As far passrushers go since they often go against larger players perhaps the benchpress should have some factor too.

What's really impressive is that JJ Watt at 290lbs meets all the factors listed other than the vertical leap. Though perhaps a 290lb person with a vert of 37" may just be more explosive than a 250lb player with a 39" vert.

[BlaZeN37]

[sherm]

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